Comments on: The waterfall trap for “agile” projects http://gojko.net/2007/12/04/waterfall-trap/ Building software that matters Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:36:47 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Increment on the long term, iterate day by day « Software Engineering Slave http://gojko.net/2007/12/04/waterfall-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-62460 Increment on the long term, iterate day by day « Software Engineering Slave Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:19:10 +0000 http://gojko.net/2007/12/04/waterfall-trap/#comment-62460 [...] a great essay on the two strategies is Jeff Patton’s Monalisa example, as reported by Gojko Adzic on the waterfall trap. [...] [...] a great essay on the two strategies is Jeff Patton’s Monalisa example, as reported by Gojko Adzic on the waterfall trap. [...]

]]> By: Alice McLane http://gojko.net/2007/12/04/waterfall-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-32377 Alice McLane Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:18:24 +0000 http://gojko.net/2007/12/04/waterfall-trap/#comment-32377 Iterative may be harder to sell, if you can't make your customers see that iterative development actually brings faster results and faster ROI. You find possible mistakes on early stages of the product development and eliminate the situation when you need to go back and remake the whole product from the very beginning. Agile and Scrum methods have a lot of <a href="http://www.wrike.com/projectmanagement/11/27/2007/Scrum-in-marketing-making-enterprises-adaptive" rel="nofollow">advantages</a>. Iterative may be harder to sell, if you can’t make your customers see that iterative development actually brings faster results and faster ROI. You find possible mistakes on early stages of the product development and eliminate the situation when you need to go back and remake the whole product from the very beginning. Agile and Scrum methods have a lot of advantages.

]]> By: From Zero to Agile · No waterfall trap http://gojko.net/2007/12/04/waterfall-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-24971 From Zero to Agile · No waterfall trap Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:51:26 +0000 http://gojko.net/2007/12/04/waterfall-trap/#comment-24971 [...] was referred to a post about a keynote speech Jeff Paton gave at XP Days London 2007. It’s called “The [...] [...] was referred to a post about a keynote speech Jeff Paton gave at XP Days London 2007. It’s called “The [...]

]]> By: alistair cockburn http://gojko.net/2007/12/04/waterfall-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-22176 alistair cockburn Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:58:59 +0000 http://gojko.net/2007/12/04/waterfall-trap/#comment-22176 > > It seems that incremental provides information while iterative provides protection. > In my experience, iterative provides information better and sooner than incremental. Incremental development provides information on the /process/; Iterative development provides information on the /product/. Both are needed. see http://alistair.cockburn.us/index.php/Incremental_versus_iterative_development (or http://tinyurl.com/22g3ka) Alistair > > It seems that incremental provides information while iterative provides protection.
> In my experience, iterative provides information better and sooner than incremental.

Incremental development provides information on the /process/;
Iterative development provides information on the /product/.

Both are needed.
see http://alistair.cockburn.us/index.php/Incremental_versus_iterative_development
(or http://tinyurl.com/22g3ka)

Alistair

]]> By: Internet Alchemy » links for 2007-12-06 http://gojko.net/2007/12/04/waterfall-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-22144 Internet Alchemy » links for 2007-12-06 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:27:31 +0000 http://gojko.net/2007/12/04/waterfall-trap/#comment-22144 [...] Gojko Adzic » The waterfall trap for “agile” projects A review of a session by Jeff Patton focussing on the difference between incremental and interative development. The mona lisa diagram explains it all in an instant. (tags: agile software development) [...] [...] Gojko Adzic » The waterfall trap for “agile” projects A review of a session by Jeff Patton focussing on the difference between incremental and interative development. The mona lisa diagram explains it all in an instant. (tags: agile software development) [...]

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