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		<title>By: Blog Xebia France - Revue de Presse Xebia</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dernier. Avec près de 1600 participants et 400 présentations c&#8217;était la plus grande (trop grande ?) conférence Agile jamais organisée. Les retours sur le niveau des présentations semblent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marisa Seal</title>
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		<description>Gojko,

Thank you for inviting me to present with you. I was honored to do it. I hope that more people/organizations discover the benefits of DbFit by trying it themselves.

Regarding: &quot;I attended quite a few sessions on acceptance testing and user stories and I’ve seen people advocate a particular format of writing user stories and bashing other formats, as if a format change would really make an important difference for the project.&quot;

I actually attended the User Story Panel. While all panelists did mention the particular style/format that they typically use for user stories, all stressed that the user stories were a starting point for communication between the delivery team/business. I quite liked David Hussman&#039;s comment (he was a panelist - and I&#039;m paraphrasing) that the user story is a tool to get everyone talking about acceptance tests.

Anyway, I do share your distaste for tool vendors/&quot;experts&quot;/whomever imposing imaginary process and formatting rules on Agile teams. I think this is why I enjoyed all of the Questioning Agile presentations so much...in my opinion, we cannot measure &quot;how Agile&quot; we are or run-down a checklist to see if our organization is indeed &quot;Agile.&quot; 

Thanks for your post.

Marisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gojko,</p>
<p>Thank you for inviting me to present with you. I was honored to do it. I hope that more people/organizations discover the benefits of DbFit by trying it themselves.</p>
<p>Regarding: &#8220;I attended quite a few sessions on acceptance testing and user stories and I’ve seen people advocate a particular format of writing user stories and bashing other formats, as if a format change would really make an important difference for the project.&#8221;</p>
<p>I actually attended the User Story Panel. While all panelists did mention the particular style/format that they typically use for user stories, all stressed that the user stories were a starting point for communication between the delivery team/business. I quite liked David Hussman&#8217;s comment (he was a panelist &#8211; and I&#8217;m paraphrasing) that the user story is a tool to get everyone talking about acceptance tests.</p>
<p>Anyway, I do share your distaste for tool vendors/&#8221;experts&#8221;/whomever imposing imaginary process and formatting rules on Agile teams. I think this is why I enjoyed all of the Questioning Agile presentations so much&#8230;in my opinion, we cannot measure &#8220;how Agile&#8221; we are or run-down a checklist to see if our organization is indeed &#8220;Agile.&#8221; </p>
<p>Thanks for your post.</p>
<p>Marisa</p>
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