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	<title>Comments on: Putting Selenium in the right place</title>
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		<title>By: Yauheni Sivukha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yauheni Sivukha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Page Object pattern is definitely what is needed to involve first while testing trough UI. I automated smoke tests for several enterprise web application and tried to gather my experience here: http://slmoloch.blogspot.com/2009/11/design-of-selenium-tests-for-aspnet.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Page Object pattern is definitely what is needed to involve first while testing trough UI. I automated smoke tests for several enterprise web application and tried to gather my experience here: <a href="http://slmoloch.blogspot.com/2009/11/design-of-selenium-tests-for-aspnet.html" rel="nofollow">http://slmoloch.blogspot.com/2009/11/design-of-selenium-tests-for-aspnet.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nat Pryce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat Pryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also discovered that pattern when using TDD from the GUI inwards to build a system about two and a half years ago, and I&#039;ve applied it successfully a couple of times since then.  We mention it in the book I wrote with Steve Freeman, &quot;Growing Object-Oriented Software, Guided by Tests&quot; (http://www.growing-object-oriented-software.com).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also discovered that pattern when using TDD from the GUI inwards to build a system about two and a half years ago, and I&#8217;ve applied it successfully a couple of times since then.  We mention it in the book I wrote with Steve Freeman, &#8220;Growing Object-Oriented Software, Guided by Tests&#8221; (<a href="http://www.growing-object-oriented-software.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.growing-object-oriented-software.com</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Antony Marcano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antony Marcano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the write-up Gojko,

For the record, the interaction design inspiration came from Kevin Lawrence during a workshop he and I were both at. This clarified my thinking on it.

An example of and &#039;activities&#039; oriented approach can be seen with the ChangeTheContent and NavigateToTheHomePage activities in these &lt;a href=&quot;http://bitbucket.org/testingreflections/jnarrate/wiki/Examples&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jnarrate examples&lt;/a&gt;.

See http://bitbucket.org/testingreflections/jnarrate/src/tip/JNarrateExamples/src/org/jnarrate/example/sut/action/ChangeTheContent.java for an example of an activity. (There is another layer of indirection in the form of a facade (in this case, abstracting WebDriver).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the write-up Gojko,</p>
<p>For the record, the interaction design inspiration came from Kevin Lawrence during a workshop he and I were both at. This clarified my thinking on it.</p>
<p>An example of and &#8216;activities&#8217; oriented approach can be seen with the ChangeTheContent and NavigateToTheHomePage activities in these <a href="http://bitbucket.org/testingreflections/jnarrate/wiki/Examples" rel="nofollow">jnarrate examples</a>.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://bitbucket.org/testingreflections/jnarrate/src/tip/JNarrateExamples/src/org/jnarrate/example/sut/action/ChangeTheContent.java" rel="nofollow">http://bitbucket.org/testingreflections/jnarrate/src/tip/JNarrateExamples/src/org/jnarrate/example/sut/action/ChangeTheContent.java</a> for an example of an activity. (There is another layer of indirection in the form of a facade (in this case, abstracting WebDriver).</p>
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